Many years ago Wilson had excellent socks with thick bottoms. Then they started using less and less cotton. So I switched to socks sold by Kmart. Kodiak socks were dense, thick, and durable. Now they are no longer available and the search for good socks continues. These socks don't meet those high standards, but they're the closest I've gotten so far. And they're almost double the price of the Kodiak socks, which I can't buy anymore. If the price was halved, I would fill a closet with it. Who knows when they will disappear and the search will continue.