Updated review:For no show socks to be worn with loafers/boat shoes get these. Jormatt 8 Pairs Mens Women. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P78CB3L?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_shareI now under stand my mistake. This one are no show socks for sneakers and dress shoes.I own both style of no show socks they are really very good. Occasionally they will slip off but over all they stay on very well. Look carefully at the socks themselves and know which shoes you want to where with them so you order the correct one.Original review:I bought these for my loafers because I’m a 10.5 I bought the bigger size range 10-13 that was a mistake because it show through my loafers. Because I was flying out the next day I would not be able to get a replacement in time (my fault). So far they are comfortable and did not come off like other brands I bought in the past. Also the do not squeeze the sides of foot, not sure if it’s because of the larger size.So if you want a true no show buy the smaller size range
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