Was looking forward to these as we were planning an outdoor water adventure and excited to try them and save $. I wish I could find them in a store, but it's outdoor season... so here we are. Here's what I saw: The issue might be between sizes (10's are just a tad big, 9's felt too small and hung down to the edge of the front of the toe...it really bothered me because of the price). There was just no running in. I unbuttoned, adjusted, walked, all the porters were so picky. However, the quality of the sole is saved. I felt like it was worth $100 in a generic floor. I will try Z1 and hope they take root. Edit: Z1 were no better. I returned and tried plain black for men with a pattern on recommendation. They were perfect and the best performers on a 2 day outdoor trip. Would lead wide-legged women in that direction.
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