I have a small hard frame shop vacuum that I use to remove ash in a pellet stove. I use hard dust filters so I don't have to change the main filter as often. I ordered these dust filters thinking I was getting 6 extra filters for the price I paid for 4 hard "WRONG" ones! The first one in the box was torn and I didn't find it until I was ready to change the dust filter again. I may or may not test others before using. I haven't had a single bad hard dust filter and have been using them for 2 years. I would not recommend these filters.