These shorts are made of lightweight, thin and perforated material. After cutting out the mesh lining, it feels like I'm wearing nothing but a belt. They are somewhat open, especially when moving and rocking things. Very handy on a 6 mile hike in hot weather. Average size fits a 33 inch waist well. I have the "B" version with a drawstring in case the elastic stretches but isn't needed yet. My only comment is that the bag is too small; he barely holds the car keys. If you like going naked but can't afford another arrest, then these shorts are for you.
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