Bought these to start sharpening a whetstone as recommended by others. These are fantastic stones. After 8000 a few wipes of the leather strap and the edges are polished to a high shine. As directed by the manufacturer's instructions, soak for about 10 minutes before first use. After that they now just squirt and go. Also mine came with all the instructions in Japanese but English instructions can be found on the Shapton website in about 60 seconds.
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