So crazy! Very well constructed shoe just not for my feet. I have a mens size 9.5 (narrow foot) and I ordered a size 10 based on size but it was too big and WAY too roomy/wide in the toe box. So I ordered a 9.5 but it was too short (thumb was on toe) and STILL too roomy/wide. They should offer a narrower version of this excellent shoe, but I think I'll go barefoot for now.