I do like the feel of these, however they are a bit longer than I would prefer. Instead of ending just above my knee, they end about mid knee with a little flare out. If they were a bit shorter, then they would stay tight and end feel more comfortable. Also, the string at the waist absolutely will NOT stay in place. One side pulls out no matter how tightly I knot it in the front and it's very hard to re-string.See full review