The title of these shoes states that they are "casual loafers". For my purposes they are better than the everyday ones. They are also not "penny" moccasins. BUT it is a very good shoe. Well built and excellent quality. In fact, they can be worn with formal attire or at least with a suit. They are beautifully finished and exactly what I was looking for. And as with several reviews, I found them to be too big. I definitely recommend it.