Never played Vise. I've always been a failure or a failure. I have tried all types of DTC balls over the last few years. Weiss must be one of the best. I was very disappointed with the durability of this ball. They feel good, as do many three-piece urethane balls. Honestly, a couple of wedges and these things get cut to pieces. I am very disappointed with the durability. It's not just normal, it's worse than any ball I've ever tried. Durability is the same as the three-piece cut-ball, which costs $19.99 per dozen. You get what you pay for, that's a lesson every budget adventurer always learns, and I'm going back to Prov1 or Bust. Used ones on ebay have better shelf life than these.
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