So I usually wear 8 in women's shoes. For women size 8 it says I should order M (women size 7.5-8.5) but on another pair (different brand) they were with 40/41 (that is European size) for L (women size 9.5) -10.5) and they are wearable but tight. I would just take out the inserts but there is a rough floor to hold the insert. I hope they stretch a little and all goes well with them. But I'm glad my sister didn't order M, otherwise I wouldn't be able to wear them.
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