Pliers for beginners. We bought these for our son to use with his forge and anvil to make knives. Buying her really got him going, that was the goal. In the world of blacksmith tongs, that would be easy. One of the sets is designed to hold a square blank around the edges to hold a railroad crutch for forging a knife. The jaws of the pliers were unable to hold the workpiece, they were displaced. While any blacksmith can heat and straighten the tongs, the principle is that I ordered three working sets, one had to be heated and bent to be usable. Also, the rivets are not the same quality steel as the parts themselves. I gave them three stars because I felt they should have been stronger for the price, checked for alignment and the rivets shouldn't have been as thin and flimsy should be as they were. They got him into smithing and I think that's for the best.
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