On Chiron, I apply the second season. In actuality, this is the first winter with snow, ice, and snowdrifts on these wheels. The wheels have disappointed and upset me. I had previously spent five winters driving the Nordman 5 SUV. I climbed all over, but Zad never made a skid. On them, it continually lathers at stop signs, in yards, and just on slick roads. When you speed quickly, the back axle immediately explodes. Loading has improved a little.