I've tried them once but they are different than what I'm used to, not sure if they're hotter or less hot. The blade looks a little different, but it's the same "18U" blade I've used in the past. I have to practice with them. One pen had its seal broken so I will use it as a practice pen. Good value when I figure out how to use them more productively. If not, I will not recommend it.
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