Maybe it's because I didn't clean the wall thoroughly, just wiped it with a damp cloth and then dried it, but these things don't stick. All 4 fell under the weight of the Xbox One Controller or Xbox One Headset. The confusing part is that they don't peel off completely, only 99%, leaving the actual mount attached to a thin piece of adhesive. If you install them, that's probably fine, but I wouldn't buy them if you plan to wall mount them. both hang. The recess does not close it, at least on the xbox one.