It's not because of the sticks themselves that their quality is lacking; the texture, the way they feel in your palm, and the weight are all quite good. I didn't remove them because they were defective. Vibration is not for everyone, but I personally enjoyed the triggers and the improved vibration. Although otherwise, they are actually superior than any on the market (with the possible exception of the elites from Microsoft). Outbids and a lack of consoles do not strike me as particularly negative aspects of the console in and of themselves.