Got them between HUE and these at the last minute. I chose them because a Zigbee hub or other hub was not needed. At the same time I bought an Alexa hub and wanted to send it back before they arrived. It took me 4 hours to give up. I connected one, and by connected I mean I have one to register with the Shelly app, but it never worked with routines in Alexa, even after creating a scene for an Alexa notification (which was stupid is), but I was still willing to save it for the features it offers. No, they're coming back. After spending another 100 something for the Phillips screen the bridge was not needed as I have an echo hub and it took 5 minutes to connect and drill a hole for placement. They work without lags. Get more Hue sensors and never look back.
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