These things squeak like crazy. They stood up well, but because of the ceramic, the wheels were very dirty. I also buy yellow stuff - better braking, more dirt, more noise. Only the Racing Hawk HP+ were louder. Wagner, Warner, Akibono are perfectly quiet and clean on my Genesis 4.6 but the petal is softer and they overheat at high speed and I have steel braided brake lines. I found that PowerStop makes carbon/ceramic pads. They made me feel what I was looking for. They are clean as spares and tighten as they get warmer. This is your challenge.