Backpack space is very important when you are a systems engineer or architect. Pencils are usually carried in Tuperware because you simply can't find a pencil case that fits pencils or mechanical pencils. They're either thick for elementary school or too long like this product. Your advice like this, but not intended for the artist, is next to impossible. The product is well made and sufficient, but about double the amount of pens I have to carry around. I recommend if you have long pens or are an artist.
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