I only used them for the office. They have never been driven in or removed from the pavement. After only 6 months of use, the fabric over the toes on both shoes already has holes. The rest of the shoes look like new. This is very disappointing and not what I expect from Acics. My other couples have previously served for years. This is the first pair I've bought through Amazon so they may be selling a lower quality pair than other sellers.
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