I bought these pants in the size pants that I usually wear size 10. Now my waist might be a little thicker, but I couldn't even get them up past my hips and they certainly weren't buttoning around my waist. You need at least a size up if not two sizes up. I missed the return window because my family had a lot of health issues so I am stuck with them now. Not sure what I am going to do with them.
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