3 1/2 would be the best estimate. Not the most comfortable five fingers. The toe pockets appear a little deeper than usual. It's ok for me, but be aware if you have short toes. Velcro is useless. And rubs in a strange way. I would recommend just cutting it off. I would also recommend being prepared to double knot the laces that come with the shoe. Or just turn them off. Not the worst, not the best. Excellent price.
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