This is my second/extra pair of these Ecco shoes: I have a blue pair about a year old. When chasing a ball on hilly/steep slopes, I prefer real plastic cleats to the narrow versions of many modern golf shoes. You don't have to slip and fall. They are well made, comfortable but I noticed "wide width" like mine. I find the normal EU size 45 a bit tight. So both of my pairs are a 45 wide, which really feels like a solid size 11+ in my experience. Ecco is always a bit pricey, but this style is a bit "outdated" and can be found in clearance sales.
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