tried the ones that start with R and end with bok and then all the others. Right out of the box they gave my feet a good place to live. tight where it should be and roomy around the toes. I'm in my 50's and now I remember how important quality shoes can be. Why does my working day feel shorter? I walk on concrete all day. Will buy this or something similar again. looks cool without the lace. Dressy shoes are fine too.