While they seem to be made well enough they are definitely NOT true to size and I even went up a size "just in case" and they were still both too short and too snug in the hips and thighs for comfortable hiking or any other activities. Going up an extra size didn't workother than it made them too big around the waist. These are supposed to be women's pants. I'm not massively over weight but I am built like a woman with a smaller waist, full hips and long legs. These are not made for women who have a figure. I suppose if you aren't built with any curves and are petite in height they might work for you. Otherwise these are a waste of time and money. I ended up ordering a different brand from a different seller that were the same size that actually fits,are better made and only paid $10 more for them. Bonus, they offer them in short, regular and tall lengths so I now have waterproof pants that fit and are long enough for my legs. Wish I'd seen that sellers product first.
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