They look perfect with the lid, storage and carry handle. They're fine except they may not have a handle. The only time you don't feel the handle deform and bend is when the container is empty. The only time you don't feel it cutting into your palm and crushing your fingers is when the container is empty. I have one with some microfiber towels and even that is too heavy for these pens. It wobbles when I pick it up by the handle. It's not really a small problem, it's actually quite a big problem. But you can still benefit from it.
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