These are heavy duty, fleece-lined, thermal socks. They're thick. They're cozy. They're almost perfect. Initially, I put them on as a first layer, and the heel of the sock went well passed my heel, like that time I put my dad's socks on in 2nd grade. I ordered a medium that should have been a fit for my women's shoe-size 8 feet. I suspect that the description should label them as men's socks instead of women's. If they offered a small, I would exchange them and be delighted. Since they don't, and since they're for staying warm at home this winter, I decided to try them with some of my thick ankle socks underneath. They're still slightly oversized that way, but they stay put well enough for them to serve my purpose. I wouldn't want to rely on them during prolonged activities outdoors, like hiking, but they're satisfactory for winter lounging at home. Had they been labeled men's socks, I may very well have ordered them knowing I would have a sizing issue, but because I had to find out the hard way and I like instead of love them, I could only give 4 stars.
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