I had high hopes for this product based on reviews. In addition "copper" material seemed to be good for my arthritic knees. I followed the sizing instructions so I bought an XL though at times I'm an L. Upon wearing both, each one does not give enough support or brace for the knee but sufficiently constructs the thigh part so it won't slide down. It's good material but wished it provided more brace for the knees .
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