These are absolutely the WORST tires I've ever owned. I've had them on a 2003 Miata with less than 1000 miles and even when they were brand new they were slightly better in the rain than 6 year old tires which is the biggest problem. I contacted Hankook and they didn't offer any real solution other than checking with the tire shop and contacting them. I have typically used Extreme Summer (200tw) tires on my Miata for the last 8 years so my expectations for wet grip are not very high but they are very dangerous. Part of the problem might be how light the Miata is, I don't know but I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.