I am giving these plates one star because we got them for a baby shower, opened them and they looked SO DIRTY. They definitely didn't look sharp. Well they were dirty. They were foggy clear, not crystal clear. And they had all sorts of scratches and marks you could get from flexing a plate. So disappointed. They don't look neat and tidy stacked on top of each other, they just scratch and make the cymbals look dirty when scratched. A big disappointment for our group who were forced to find something new at the last minute. If you get these records - order them with enough time to view them and then send them back, they don't meet your needs.
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