Have both but they are not programmable like the previous 2009 Dodge Grand Caravan. We used to be able to buy remotes and as long as we programmed 2 remotes we could program a 3rd and 4th, but that wasn't the case with this product. In addition, the back is solid and does not have the small battery replacement flap shown in the picture. Therefore, there is no way to check the battery. I don't know exactly what this product is as there is some evidence that Dodge has changed some features in their vans, but our previous 2009 Dodge Grand Caravan could well be programming aftermarket keys.
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