Overall a good pair of trousers at half the price of others. I had sizing issues. I'm 5" 11", 210 lbs, pant size 33" x 33-34" and the Joe Rockets size chart says I'm a medium size. I ordered the large/regular first so there was a little more room and the waist was still very tight and the legs were perfect. I had to go back and take a size extra large/regular and the waist fits perfectly but now my legs are swollen. It would be possible to order xl/short but then they might be too short. It's just difficult to get the perfect pair when you order online. They're definitely doable at $140, they appear to be well made, waterproof and include knee and hip pads that stay comfortable while riding. I would talk about double jogging pants rather than athletic cycling shorts.
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