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Review on 💪 Upgrade Your Toilet with the American Standard Champion Kit 241 F/Close Coupled Champion 2 PC by Prem Robinson

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Save money buy a sledgehammer instead

Absolutely no, 100% NO THIS IS NOT SUITABLE FOR CHAMPION 4! The photos show the difference between the Champion 4 pad (green) and this kit's pad (black) as well as what I had to purchase to fix the cause of this kit. The gasket from the kit is definitely thicker. The screws in the kit are also brass instead of stainless steel in the original toilet. Other reviews have mentioned this as well. I was too angry to write this review in January when I bought it and it disappointed me, but I've had enough time to calm down, so here it is. I had a Champion 4 that I liked so much I bought a second one for another bathroom. The second when he was about 3 years old started leaking through the valve seal, which was enough to add an extra $50 to my water bill in a month. It was still under warranty, but because I replaced the toilet as part of a massive renovation project, the receipt is somewhere in Lowe's $30,000 stack of receipts, so I figured the warranty claim wasn't worth it. Since I'm very pleased with the performance of my toilet and couldn't see the defect in the valve seal (I later saw after removing it, a clear manufacturer fault), I wanted to play it safe and get it right. I bought a whole new flushing tower assembly and this tank kit because why rebuild a tank with a 3 year old seal? All in all it cost less than a month of extra water bill caused by the leak so I figured it was worth it. This kit was presented with a different seal (see image) but was claimed to fit the Champion 4. I double-checked the description and even found where the American Standard says the new seal design is an acceptable one-time replacement. Answers to questions, so I moved on. When reinstalling the cistern with a new flush tower and this gasket kit, I alternately tightened the cistern mounting bolts back and forth about 1/2 turn at a time (that's how I've installed every toilet cistern in my life). The reservoir was about 1/4 inch from the base when I heard the pop. I didn't see anything until I turned on the water and found a crack in the tank that spilled water on the floor. The only replacement tanks I could find cost more than a whole toilet and I need a working toilet before my wife gets home from work so I took a scoop and bought a brand new toilet and installed it. For some reason I even bought the same one to replace this one (Champion 4 1.6 gpf is really amazing to use). Now I still have a warranty toilet in my garage, dismantled with a cracked tank and the original flap valve broken, a brand new American standard flush tower that I paid for. and this American Standard POS Tank Gasket Kit that caused it all. It would have been cheaper, easier, and more pleasant to buy a sledgehammer instead and use it to remove the leaking spool valve in the first place. To add insult to injury, a few days before I heard another toilet (Champion 4 #1) open the fill valve for r a little just before I opened my water bill by $5 more than usual. All I know is I'm going to rummage through receipts and you'll have American Standard clowns come to my house and fix this and take all your old broken stuff when you go, lucky you if you go without legal action get out of here .

Pros
  • Easy to use
Cons
  • Concise instructions