I ordered them after ordering the F235 v3. I ordered 8.5 in 235s and they were top notch. But when these 260s came out they fit more like an 8. The shoe itself is great for training but the sizing makes my toes stick out to the end of the toe. Personally, I wouldn't run too far in these shoes, 200 meters maximum. For longer distances I prefer a little more cushioning in the forefoot. But for your strength training, rowing, box jumping, etc., they're fine. I would recommend half a size bigger