At first l hesitated to order, because of some reviews. But these socks are made well, the material is thick, and they DON'T slide or roll down. The color of them is little on yellowish side, and some are little tighter fit than others. I match up loser fitting ones and tighter fitting ones, separating them. With 8 pair you can do that. The difference is not very noticeable. This was a good buy and l recommend them. One advice: if your size is borderline between the two offered sizes, order smaller one, it definitely holds up.