The holder is thin making it difficult to remove the mug. I'm giving them a shot at good old college. Since I bought a new cage for the canaries and another for the finches, I needed extra bowls. There are drop bowls in the cage and they are great. I chose a different set to add more options for my birds. These hold up well. One of the old mugs has a rough bottom so we'll see how long they last.
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