This is definitely not a slouch hat. Having read the reviews beforehand I expected the worst and hoped for the best. I have a regular hat (like many others) that was definitely not floppy and definitely not ribbed. To my displeasure. Regardless, it's still a fairly warm and snug fitting hat that fits and works well. I wear it all the time and while it's not what is advertised and not what I wanted, it still works. so yes, no big deal.
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