I read that someone complained about how hard the rocks are under their feet. I don't know what kind of hiking this guy is doing, or maybe I'm weird, but I really need to feel every bump, every elevation change, the rock, the softness, all of that to mentally create the perfect footing . So these shoes do it for me, I feel the road just as long as I need and for the price I think they are beyond perfect, you can't ask for more, you can't even ask for what you actually get for this price. It's been a week since I got them, only 3 little dicks included, too early to tell but so far they feel pretty good, they're comfy, light weight, so soft that you can feel like you can move your feet when you're barefoot, they look good even with good pants (nothing special of course), only durability remains, i'll get back to you in good time