I was planning to use them for a homemade mug. I researched markers, baking time, and how to make sure the ink stays on the mug. I tried about 10 different drying, baking and washing methods. Nothing worked and every time the ink washed off or severely flaked off on the first wash. I was so disappointed as I was doing Christmas gifts for family and friends and had to find something else. The pens write beautifully, they don't have a very fine point, but they are thinner than the average marker.
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