aside from the included stylus they are still my favorite. are better suited to small skinny arms and are long so you can align your arm on a pillow/sofa arm and still reach the iPad screen in your lap (assuming you're 5ft 4 I guess). I really like that there is no snap on back like the grips that many pens have, they hurt my fingers as I like to hold the stylus up. I've used them and they're not as delicate as some of the others, but they're still cheap to replace, which is why I still like this pen best.
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