8" zip ties are thicker than you would expect from weak 6" or medium 4" zip ties. They are flimsy and flimsy so don't buy if you want durability. It doesn't take a lot of force, so if you're still tempted to buy these, remember that at least 15-20% of the fastener head will break on the first use and be unusable. I am afraid that the UV protection will also be weak. These ties are a robbery. Update: total rip off! At least 40% bounce rate! Mistakes happen either when the head fails as soon as you insert the other end, or cheap flimsy flimsy plastic breaks when you only half tighten it, someone should be embarrassed.
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