I bought these to wear as socks under water shoes and with open heel snorkel fins. They worked very well - they were comfortable in both situations, keeping my feet warm while swimming in the cold water in the cave, and allowing me to walk on rocks with just my socks on without cutting my feet. If they were a little higher on my ankle they would get a 5. So they are a bit low. I have women's shoes in size 9-10, I bought them in a small size and they fit perfectly.
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