So I've tried 2 of these so far - female X-Lg (WX) and male M1. *pfff*. I'm 5ft 4" and not quite 170# of muscle from decades of skiing, swimming and weight training, so I have a massive chest and some chest tissue. I must be MS (male chunky) or WS (female short and tall). Apparently they don't make sleeveless shorts - I had to email the company to find out - hence their "incorrect" table - why list the suit? I can not buy? It seems lazy not to take this size off the table on suits that are not sold in this size. So I don't get the size I really need. I did what the chart said and went to WX and added 7 pounds for my large rib cage ["chest". go with it; The men's M1s were good in the legs and too tight in the torso - for example, I couldn't even begin to zip up - apparently all medium-sized men do NOT have boobs. An email from their representative recommends M2, but I'm suspicious a third time. s charm, after two disappointments. The neoprene feels nice and I love the idea of the Short John B/C by Coivd in the summer, I only swim outdoors and combine breaststroke with freestyle and backstroke. But at this point I might have to switch to another brand. I've almost always been the average male standard, even if I have a bit more torso/inseam length. But not with this brand. So if you have a non-standard uniform, this company may not be for you. UPDATE: After trying M2 AND W3 (ordered around the same time) I returned M2 and W3 fits better. Basically I followed her advice to add 7lbs if chest/shoulders are bigger with WX. This wasn't a good idea though as they seem to assume that all women have breasts to match the extra shoulders/chest. The W3's extra hip room helped it work in the chest. Men have a narrower hip area (which is not surprising). So I couldn't close the M2 on my own, but I could do it with the W3 and it didn't shrink around my neck. It's quite comfortable after a swim and the extra flexibility in the legs is definitely there. what I wanted. So, I'd give it a 3.5 - durable, comfortable, lots of space. The zipper itself is fine, but I think the pull should be a meandering ribbon of fabric/more to "grab" when you pull (why isn't it 4/5). I still complain that it's not clear that "chunky" sizes are only made for specific suits, because that's what attracted me to the company in the first place.
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