Replacing my old (22 years) can lights with an led insert. My cans did not have these, actually, not having these is why my can rims were loose.I put these in, and they were perfect to insert the led insert.I measured the placement at a local Home Depot to fine out how far from the ceiling, up into the can to place these ( 1-1/2" from ceiling ). Use a right angle drill attachment or a snug nose Philips. Comes with self tapping screws.
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