I order Altra because of the extended tip. I need a room especially in height. Anyone with a big toe that curves up rather than down knows how painful shoes that press on the toe can be. The style I usually buy is no longer available. I tried them based on photos and reviews. It is NOT the same room as my other Altria. I've squished a couple of stretchers into the toe box and am hoping this will increase the height of the toe box so they're more comfortable.