Reading a few reviews makes me wonder if they even used them for plunge toilets! One reviewer stated simply placing the plunger in VERY HOT WATER to soften the plunger. At the same time, after leaving it several times for about 20 minutes when the water cooled down, the toilet still didn't work. It will submerge the tub I bought it for free, NOT the toilet. Part of the piston will just collapse instead of opening backwards or actually sinking. I'm 67 and have had a lot of butts in the past lol. but i have to say, apart from the good idea of the holder, i definitely spent my money on this item. I just wish I would have thrown the old one away so quickly. I would not recommend this product and am so curious how those who have received 4-5 star reviews are using it. ,,,
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