I'm on my third generation now. R16. During the season, the spikes did not fade. No one. True, the ride is not aggressive, but still. On country roads, the car behaves very confidently. Braking is superb. On the asphalt and the track, too, everything is fine. In general, for me, the Germans do not spoil anything, chic winter tires! Don't skimp on tires! A friend bought tires for 6K from another brand, and his super-driven car in the summer on average winter wheels turned into a cart)