I would like to know. but I use my rings as a ring AND as a stand. Earlier pocket rings were made of plastic and could only hold one card. So I thought it was a good choice as there were two card slots. (ID+CC) Unfortunately, since the cloth ring is made of cloth, it is not strong enough to hold my phone while watching video/TV. (So I have to lean it against something.) I've always thought of rings as a ring AND a stand. these are my expectations. If it is the same as what you expect I would choose a different ring and bag combo. (I used to have a hard plastic one that was perfect for this. I just ordered that in place of this bag.)
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