I took winter wheels for the first time, the seller advised these. took and did not regret the road is kept very well, for 3 years not a single skid, even at a decent speed. When the road was not cleaned, I was not inferior in any way, I calmly drove where I needed to. For 3 years, out of 4 wheels, only 1 spike fell out, but the truth is, I drove a little on them, about 20,000. Well, in general, this is everyone's choice)