. but these screws. They come with Simpson gear like peas and carrots. I prefer them to nails as I have used both. They don't break off, they hold tight, and the hex head eliminates the horrible bolt head stripping that I really hate when using cheap frame bolts. I'll add that I prefer screws because my elbow is worn out and nailing isn't fun. general. Although I have a good nailing machine, I now only use screws for joist hangers and similar brackets.